Why don’t we earn some sound for the soles inside your home! (It’s me personally, underneath in the home.) Bottom Culture is now very anything™ using the internet as of late! But what does it really mean to be a bottom? Precisely why contains the society decided bottoming is synonymous with getting scared to inquire of for what you prefer? And how does an individual go-about choosing if they like bottoming?!

With all of these questions rattling around our very own heads, demanding answers, Drew and I understood there clearly was just one individual we’re able to visit for a curved, enthusiastic talk about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is just one of the best men and women I’m sure composing and tweeting nowadays, and as a bottom myself, i’m recognized to call the woman my leader. Chingy allows us to tease on just what it way to be a bottom, exactly why she dislikes «smol bean» bottom society, your system as hole, plus body as

entire

. It really is a truly gorgeous dialogue, basically do say-so my self! Please realize that i realize that we state «gorgeous» approximately three thousand instances this event, and I am pursuing help for my condition. (the disorder is talking like 57 year-old white homosexual man.)

And! This week’s online game involves myself speculating in the event that challenging plots Drew defines are part of a film or a dream she had circa 2006. It is not easy!


PROGRAM NOTES

+ Browse Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+is a summary of the films that Drew used in her game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Discussing Kid

    (1938)


  • Pierrot le Fou


    (1965)

  • Dark Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform the greatest work of her profession in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat you to rest while clothed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

because you have earned that.


+Cindy Wilson of The B52s is quite hot and frankly? «Love Shack» nevertheless whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I’ve just already been bottoming since I have was actually, I don’t know, as far back as I’m able to bear in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back I am able to recall, i usually desired to end up being a base, no, but kind of

[intro performs]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thanks for visiting

Hold off, So Is This a night out together

?


Christina

:

Wait, Is This a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast dedicated to one, the only the biggest concern in our instances: hold off, Is This a romantic date?


Drew

: And, wow, i truly merely froze upwards there.


Christina

: I happened to be like, oh crap, I happened to be likely to say something! [laughs]


Drew

: I’m really fast into the banter, my personal head just… The truth is that I became reading over my video game notes, which we’re not at yet because we still need to introduce ourselves. Very, i’ll make an effort to remain dedicated to one task at any given time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: i am Drew Gregory, i will be a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans lady.


Christina

: Hi, i’m Christina Tucker, forgot my finally title for a hot minute, no big issue. I am in addition an author at Autostraddle alongside places online, a podcaster, a gay black colored lady. Which is style of it, dog, that’s me personally.


Drew

: I love it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: today the overall game.


Drew

: are we able to have fun with the online game?


Christina

: are we able to get to the online game? I will show’re thrilled, I’m able to tell you’re merely shaking.


Drew

: So, i am maintaining a dream record since 2007, in addition to assumption of your game is actually-


Christina

: I did not understand this in regards to you!


Drew

: Yes, it is not as up-to-date now, I regularly write-down all my desires now its only once anything really sticks. But, the idea for this online game is, am we describing the plot of an aspiration I experienced when I ended up being a teenager, or am we explaining the story of a movie that I liked once I had been an adolescent?


Christina

: Oh guy, okay.


Drew

: Thus, the way it is going to get is I’ll constantly describe it an aspiration along with one individual. So, in the event it was

Superstar Wars,

I’d be like, i am in room and that I’m battling as part of a rebellion, so there’s a bad  guy that is dressed in a black robot match and it works out he is my dad. That is how I’ll describe it, the manner by which we explain goals, but sometimes it is going to be an aspiration, sometimes it’ll end up being from a film. Ready?


Christina

: i am something, I don’t know that i am ready, but let us rock. Let us see what i will do right here.


Drew

: Okay, I’m on a beach and that I see this strange guy dressed up in black colored. He tells me which he’s Death therefore can enjoy a game title to decide basically stay or if the guy requires me personally. We have the ability to escape, but everywhere I go, men and women are unwell and I feel Death still is after me.The merely happy component occurs when We fulfill a theater troupe and they are a lot of enjoyment.


Christina

: This,i do believe, is actually an aspiration.


Drew

: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: this can be will be a proper gotcha on CT’s traditional film knowledge, because the things I know Drew, inside adolescence, was not doing was watching movies that i will identify. At this stage, i am sorts of wanting that I have seen none of them. I think which will be more pleasurable for me personally.


Drew

: Another one, I’m meeting with my family several Italian United states gangsters. Among gangsters requires that I provide over some cash, but my loved ones and I been able to avoid. We escape through all of this cold landscapes, on the road I satisfy an actress and connect with the lady. We end up in a suburb. In my opinion we will start another existence with each other until she requires me to a big mansion, and I realize it belongs to the gangster. It had been all a trap, the gangster comes so there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the fantasy concludes using celebrity executing a musical wide variety.


Christina

: So is this a movie?


Drew

: this will be an aspiration I had in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume I have to understand that it is 2000, it’s old-school received brain. That’s what i must bear in mind.


Drew

: additionally love, exactly what flicks was I seeing during the time and how a lot performed that impact my personal hopes and dreams?


Christina

: Well, yeah, plainly quite a lot!


Drew

: an enjoyable simple truth is that I became in fact, i did not add this because I imagined this would have away, nevertheless the gangster was Tony Soprano because I happened to be enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. Therefore, that is a great small reality. Okay, next one, You will find a significant task, but this hot woman appears and begins annoying me. I do want to end up being together with her, but I also really should get could work done, thus I tell her to leave. She keeps after myself. Out of the blue, a leopard looks in my own space and I also need certainly to spend the rest of the fantasy wanting to find the leopard. I’m still really anxious, We never complete my work, but about the girl is actually hot.


Christina

: it has becoming a dream you have, it has becoming a Drew dream.


Drew

: This Really Is Howard Hawks’

Mentioning Child

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s a dream of yours, that’s the a lot of Drew fantasy i have have you ever heard. Today at this time, i am merely will be spinning flick record, to suit my personal whims.


Drew

: Great, I favor that. Okay, I’m at an event and I do not like anybody there. Finally, we see this woman, I used to have a crush on and then we decide to leave together. We visit the woman home, however they are chased down by this group of men that happen to be attempting to kill the woman. We finish on a beach plus it appears like we’re going to be okay through to the men discover us. She ends up becoming into this additional man, and so I take cartoonish dynamite and decide to strike me up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: this can be! This might be Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot le Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: have never observed, but that appears like a ding dang movie in my opinion.


Drew

: Great, I favor it. Absolutely a narration describing an odd watercraft like framework that is impractical to wreck. I am going on a retreat close to the design, the retreat is sort of movie theater associated, type of religious. I have a crush on this woman on retreat, but she’s a boyfriend. Amid the performances and rituals, there are plenty of crisis between me and this also girl and her boyfriend, it ends with me alone. There has been a sequence revealing that motorboat construction is actually impossible to wreck because a mechanical arm fixes it during the night.


Christina

: which can be such a thing in a lot of methods, i will say movie again, you will want to?


Drew

: It is an aspiration from 2011, that did have narration from some other person, you know, it occurs!


Christina

: this is actually good promo getting a dream journal, because I feel think its great will be fun easily could remember my goals in this manner.


Drew

: No person likes whenever you explain the aspirations for them. I really do though, and that I’m your friend, when you desire to take note of your own aspirations and let me know, i might love to read about them.


Christina

: Okay, which is very nice to hear.


Drew

: i’ve two even more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in a beautiful garden with a team of buddies, we all seem to be waking up from becoming drugged. We’re forced to shower in an acid that drains pigment and we also end up being blonde and blue-eyed. The folks responsible start teaching all of us to destroy, it turns out this place has been operated by a crazy dictator, I reject getting completely brainwashed. There’s this lady indeed there You will find a crush on and I also convince the lady to leave with me, while escaping I have recorded and killed, nevertheless lady will get out. When she leaves the jail, she realizes we are in a forest so there’s no place commit.


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: that could be 1st fantasy in my dream record from, I stated, «2007.» That it is 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i thought it had been fascinating that I pass away into the dream, nevertheless other person continues on. However now, there’s some unusual sex things going on here, and that I’m planning need certainly to contemplate this 1 for some time.


Christina

: absolutely accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, We have yet another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i have been given the possibility to end up being a dancer, my mother insists i will not be able to do so. There’s this various other girl inside the tv series who I think is actually hot, but i am stressed she’s going to replace me personally. I’m struggling in rehearsal, but-end right up leaving utilizing the woman, we get together. This really is hot, but I feel me dropping control, we get back to the dance show. My body seems to be morphing into something else entirely, I’m stressed that i’ll mess up.


Christina

: this can be a motion picture.


Drew

: Therefore,

Dark Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, which

Ebony Swan

, certainly.


Drew

: Have you seen

Ebony Swan

? That has been one I thought you seen.


Christina

: I have seen

Ebony Swan

, I… Fun fact, we went on a date with one to see

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: Just directly circumstances I did.


Drew

: the thing that was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it was unusual.


Drew

: Did you like the movie? Performed he like flick?


Christina

: i believe, I experienced currently viewed it, i believe I was similar, «Why don’t we go find it again.» I think, I was extremely pro

Dark Swan,

and for straight heterosexual explanations, certainly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, «that has been odd.» And I ended up being like, «Oh well, we’re not browsing consistently go out.»


Drew

: Wow, really I wish him the most effective, i really hope he is someplace successful. Thanks a lot for playing this video game with me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m thus pleased we moved two for nonetheless numerous we did thereon.


Drew

: perhaps not bad.


Christina

: Not terrible.


Drew

: You Probably Did much better than Elise performed while I desired to find out if it was an operating online game that may operate, and she ended up being my guinea pig. Therefore, she merely had gotten one correct.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Drew

: Should we move on to our main subject for the few days?


Christina

: let us enter it, why don’t we have this special visitor in.


Drew

: Well, I want to initial say that our very own major subject in the week is bottoming, therefore we could have only one really special visitor.


Christina

: It’s just one individual.


Drew

: are you able to kindly present your self?


Chingy

: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. I am a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather-based dyke muppet. I will be also The united states’s top base.


Christina

: Yes, I think whenever we happened to be discussing subjects and in addition we’re like, «we can easily explore bottoming and there’s actually only 1 individual we can easily have on pod to take action, absolutely just one one who is quite virtually the Supreme.»


Chingy

: many thanks for knowing, it feels very good for your greatness recognized, many thanks


Christina

: Yes, and you also’ve completed great work, and right here the audience is knowing it.


Drew

: I want to know as soon as you feel you became The united states’s biggest base. Whenever ended up being that a word and a label and an identity you actually conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, therefore I often simply say, «I’m underneath Supreme.» Because, exactly who cares about The united states?


Drew

: Sure.


Christina

: reasonable sufficient.


Chingy

: Yeah, i believe that I always was great at bottoming, then again in 2017 or something, I went to a play party that was only for fem leading sadists defeating me personally upwards for six to seven many hours right, also it was only myself, and I was like, «Oh, I’m a that’s previously been.» Following, In my opinion after that, i simply kept escalating being, wow, I’m thus fun to view. Wow, I’m very enjoyable as a bottom, this might be wow, everyone just who gets to top myself is so happy. And, it just went from there, i do believe, after which I had written articles called I’m a far greater Bottom versus You. Here’s Precisely Why. It had been type a manifesto, it actually was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: indeed, can verify.


Chingy

: And, people have actually said, «It is changed how they look at gender.» And, i prefer that a lot. Oahu is the one article back at my website that I’ve created here. I’ve composed at

Vice

,

Teenage Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was the very first location we published, really. But yeah, that is the one blog on my internet site, if you want to look it over.


Christina

: i really like a stronger brand, I adore understanding a brandname, and I also believe that’s truly gorgeous, simply, brand name management of your personal bottomy your self. I do believe, that’s really beautiful observe.


Chingy

: thank-you, I got my personal very first writing opportunity at

Autostraddle

because I happened to be currently talking about getting a bottom, and being poly, and being truly deep into getting a fabric dyke. And because next, I’ve started initially to reveal a lot of other things, but becoming bottom supreme just form of is the one through collection of every thing.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I additionally feel like you are a very energetic bottom but also in the way you share, and mention, and that I presume knowledge bottoming you are extremely active. While, i do believe there’s a lot of the queer society, possibly, particularly the lesbian community, that maybe thinks about bottoming as… I’m not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, I often point out that there’s a lot less bottoms than individuals believe are soles. I do believe there’s a distinction between becoming a bottom and just unsure or seeking what you need. In my opinion those are two entirely different things that people conflate.


Christina

: I would personally must concur, I also think the way you speak about bottoming is, i am talking about, let’s only state it, a great deal much less inconvenient versus way more and more people speak about getting a base or identify with bottom society. Because, i really do believe that what lots of people assert clearly or non clearly is simply, Im sluggish nor care and attention doing any kind of action, task, et-cetera, i would really like things completed to myself. And, basically need to seek that in any way, that affects my thoughts. And, you may be so great and thus powerful at being, they are the issues that i would like, bring them to me personally and I also will rock and roll the globe. This is certainly attractive to me.


Chingy

: thank-you, i am talking about, that’s what you need to do to be proficient at simply one thing, you need to place yourself available to choose from and attempt and come up with blunders and get harm somewhat, and, I’m not sure, study on it.


Christina

: In my opinion that’s a great information, honestly.


Chingy

: i have simply been bottoming since I have was actually, I am not sure, dating back to I am able to keep in mind. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue «Rags to wealth» from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, dating back to I’m able to bear in mind, i planned to end up being a bottom. No, but variety of, once I had been 13 or 14, I happened to be already examining BDSM internet sites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM internet sites. So, I wasn’t under any delusions regarding what I was when it comes to, I became having girls I dated in high-school choke me personally around, we realized the things I desired. And so, that standard of consciousness has just given myself a number of years to know what i’d like and learn how to get it.


Christina

: Beautiful, received, offer myself your emotions on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, i am in fact really excited to talk about this because personally i think like in 2019 {when I|as I|while
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